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| | | curtis41 | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 28/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 191 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 03 Feb 2012 - 14:57 Post title : New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 | | | Reported initial rain performance on this tire. Rode some 200 miles in rain and wet roads yesterday. This 200/55/17R V-78 tire worked well, has a very deep tread and pushed water out of the tire very fast. Using 40 psi initially and will fine tune as I get more time on the tire. These tires are finally widely available and about $157 each low to about $189 delivered somewhat high. This tire is rated at 937 pounds, higher than the Metzeler or Avon Storm. The sidewall is pretty strong and the tire is a dual compound, hard in the center and fairly soft on the sides. Break-in will take about 100-200 miles, less if on rock asphalt and maybe longer on the concrete slab. Drive at variable speeds, take it easy on fast acceleration for the first miles. The tire is somewhat oily out of the mold. I do not notice much difference in height, this tire is maybe 1 cm taller or so, and actually corrects the small speedometer error. Will check back after getting more miles on the tire. I would not recommend doing a lot of 25 degree leans until you get a few miles on the tire. :-) What I hope is that the service life of this tire will end up Michelin>Avon>Metzeler. I would encourage other riders using this tire to report their observations, pro and con on this tire so that riders can get a balanced report on this tire on the Tbird. At least here, so far, so good. My sense is Michelin will sell a LOT of these tires. Maybe decent mileage and decent performance are not out of reach.
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| | | feduke | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 03 Feb 2012 - 15:28 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: curtis41) | | | Great info! Thanks. It all sounds good to me and I agree on the reporting. Hopefully they will make a front tire to fit the Birds.
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| | | Rev | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 02/02/2011 | | Posts | : | 266 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 03 Feb 2012 - 16:52 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: curtis41) | | |
curtis41 wrote:
Reported initial rain performance on this tire. Rode some 200 miles in rain and wet roads yesterday. This 200/55/17R V-78 tire worked well, has a very deep tread and pushed water out of the tire very fast. Using 40 psi initially and will fine tune as I get more time on the tire. These tires are finally widely available and about $157 each low to about $189 delivered somewhat high. This tire is rated at 937 pounds, higher than the Metzeler or Avon Storm. The sidewall is pretty strong and the tire is a dual compound, hard in the center and fairly soft on the sides. Break-in will take about 100-200 miles, less if on rock asphalt and maybe longer on the concrete slab. Drive at variable speeds, take it easy on fast acceleration for the first miles. The tire is somewhat oily out of the mold. I do not notice much difference in height, this tire is maybe 1 cm taller or so, and actually corrects the small speedometer error. Will check back after getting more miles on the tire. I would not recommend doing a lot of 25 degree leans until you get a few miles on the tire. :-) What I hope is that the service life of this tire will end up Michelin>Avon>Metzeler. I would encourage other riders using this tire to report their observations, pro and con on this tire so that riders can get a balanced report on this tire on the Tbird. At least here, so far, so good. My sense is Michelin will sell a LOT of these tires. Maybe decent mileage and decent performance are not out of reach. |
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I see a lot of people referring to the spedo "correction". There's a very valid reason that the spedo shows less than the actual speed in the US for imported vehicles. There is a gargantuan fine for vehicle manufacturers that import to the US should they find their speedometer is incorrect to the high side. If they're off by 1mph, it's an import fine they don't want to pay. So it's not so much of a speedometer reading incorrectly as it is err on the side of caution. It's true of every single imported vehicle I've owned, including my current Toyota Tacoma.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 03 Feb 2012 - 16:54 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: feduke) | | | Do a tread depth check on it right now and again after approximately 1000 miles and so forth.That will give ya an idea if you're runnin too much or too little air pressure in the tire.Just adjust the pressure accordingly until ya find the correct pressure to suit your needs as well as tire wear.For a gentleman your size,I'm sure you'll need a couple extra pounds as compared to a guy my size and so forth.Anything is better then what we're all using right now and getting for mileage out of those tires.But I don't remember reading anything about a Dual Compound being used on either the Michelin or the Dunlop tires.I know it's VR rated as opposed to the "ZR" rated tire which is what everyone is currently using.And should you actually get the 25,000 miles projected by Michelin,that'll put these other tire companies on notice.And again,as I told ya,you made a good decision Curt. Dave!!!
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| | | curtis41 | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 191 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 03 Feb 2012 - 19:55 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: Rev) | | |
Rev wrote:
curtis41 wrote:
Reported initial rain performance on this tire. Rode some 200 miles in rain and wet roads yesterday. This 200/55/17R V-78 tire worked well, has a very deep tread and pushed water out of the tire very fast. Using 40 psi initially and will fine tune as I get more time on the tire. These tires are finally widely available and about $157 each low to about $189 delivered somewhat high. This tire is rated at 937 pounds, higher than the Metzeler or Avon Storm. The sidewall is pretty strong and the tire is a dual compound, hard in the center and fairly soft on the sides. Break-in will take about 100-200 miles, less if on rock asphalt and maybe longer on the concrete slab. Drive at variable speeds, take it easy on fast acceleration for the first miles. The tire is somewhat oily out of the mold. I do not notice much difference in height, this tire is maybe 1 cm taller or so, and actually corrects the small speedometer error. Will check back after getting more miles on the tire. I would not recommend doing a lot of 25 degree leans until you get a few miles on the tire. :-) What I hope is that the service life of this tire will end up Michelin>Avon>Metzeler. I would encourage other riders using this tire to report their observations, pro and con on this tire so that riders can get a balanced report on this tire on the Tbird. At least here, so far, so good. My sense is Michelin will sell a LOT of these tires. Maybe decent mileage and decent performance are not out of reach. |
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I see a lot of people referring to the spedo "correction". There's a very valid reason that the spedo shows less than the actual speed in the US for imported vehicles. There is a gargantuan fine for vehicle manufacturers that import to the US should they find their speedometer is incorrect to the high side. If they're off by 1mph, it's an import fine they don't want to pay. So it's not so much of a speedometer reading incorrectly as it is err on the side of caution. It's true of every single imported vehicle I've owned, including my current Toyota Tacoma. |
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I agree, by correction, I meant the actual speed is now close to the indicated speed, and correcting the deliberate underspeed built in. Technically, it is not an error.
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| | | feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 03 Feb 2012 - 23:52 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: curtis41) | | | Wonder when these will come out for bikes?
They have been testing that for several years now. Resilient Tech was developing them for the military application.
Amazing new tires.........................
Michelin Tires... Absolutely SCARY looking... Look for 'em in August.
These tires are made in South Carolina , USA .
SEE THROUGH TIRES
Radical new tire design by Michelin.
The next generation of tires.
They had a pair at the Philadelphia car show.
Yes, those are 'spoke' like connections to the inner part of the tire from the outside tread 'wrap!' The next picture shows how odd it looks in motion...
Makes you wonder how the ride feels doesn't it?
These tires are airless and are scheduled to be out on the market very soon.
The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips will not work on these.
Just think of the impact on existing technology:
A. no more air valves...
B. no more air compressors at gas stations...
C. no more repair kits...
D. no more flats...
These are actual pictures taken at the South Carolina plant of Michelin.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Feb 2012 - 00:03 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: feduke) | | | So much for STOP STICKS being used to stop a fleeing motor vehicle,huh Mike!!! lol Dave!!!
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| | | easyrider | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 17/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,066 | | Location | : | NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 04 Feb 2012 - 00:16 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: davetac1) | | |
davetac1 wrote:
So much for STOP STICKS being used to stop a fleeing motor vehicle,huh Mike!!! lol Dave!!! |
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They will just use a 12G pump..
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| | | narsisco_lopez | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 09/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 2,765 | | Location | : | Golden (Showers!), Colorado, United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Feb 2012 - 00:17 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: davetac1) | | | And just to piss Dave off, they'll only get about 5k miles on the version for the 'Bird before you need to buy another one (for $500 bucks each) 
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2012 K13S
2009 KTM 990 Adventure
2010 Triumph Thunderbird 1600 (the Alien Queen)
2009 Triumph Sprint ST (another great bike!)
2007 Kawasaki ZX10R
2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1975 Honda SB550T "Clubman"
1981 Kawasaki KZ1000J
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| | | feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Feb 2012 - 01:02 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | | That'd piss me off too! But that's not Metzler
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Feb 2012 - 01:53 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: narsisco_lopez) | | |
narsisco_lopez wrote:
And just to piss Dave off, they'll only get about 5k miles on the version for the 'Bird before you need to buy another one (for $500 bucks each) |
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Don't laugh Dave! With my luck,you're probably right.That's exactly what would happen.lol lol The story of my life,a day late and a dollar short.  lol Dave!!!
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,403 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 04 Feb 2012 - 07:30 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: curtis41) | | | I got out this morning for a two hundred km ride on what I would call secondary main country roads. I've done 340 kms now and most of the tyre looks run in. I think the chicken strip is going to be a bit wider on these, guess because they are taller. I'm running 35 psi and the ride feels very close to the Metz at 42 psi, still feels quite firm and tracks well, nothing bad to report so far.
I'm about 30 kilos less than Curtis, but we both reckon the ride is firmer than the metz at the same pressures. My ride this morning didn't have too many twisties, mainly long higher speed sweepers, and the bird handled very well. I noticed after the ride, while the tyres were still warm, if you touched the outer section of the tyre with the back of a finger it was quite tacky which is a good sign for grip. I may go up one or two psi and see how it goes, Michelin recommend the bike manufacturers inflation specs.
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| | | mjgt | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/09/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,201 | | Location | : | North Somerset, United Kingdom |
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| | Posted : 04 Feb 2012 - 16:18 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: Rev) | | |
Rev wrote:
curtis41 wrote:
Reported initial rain performance on this tire. Rode some 200 miles in rain and wet roads yesterday. This 200/55/17R V-78 tire worked well, has a very deep tread and pushed water out of the tire very fast. Using 40 psi initially and will fine tune as I get more time on the tire. These tires are finally widely available and about $157 each low to about $189 delivered somewhat high. This tire is rated at 937 pounds, higher than the Metzeler or Avon Storm. The sidewall is pretty strong and the tire is a dual compound, hard in the center and fairly soft on the sides. Break-in will take about 100-200 miles, less if on rock asphalt and maybe longer on the concrete slab. Drive at variable speeds, take it easy on fast acceleration for the first miles. The tire is somewhat oily out of the mold. I do not notice much difference in height, this tire is maybe 1 cm taller or so, and actually corrects the small speedometer error. Will check back after getting more miles on the tire. I would not recommend doing a lot of 25 degree leans until you get a few miles on the tire. :-) What I hope is that the service life of this tire will end up Michelin>Avon>Metzeler. I would encourage other riders using this tire to report their observations, pro and con on this tire so that riders can get a balanced report on this tire on the Tbird. At least here, so far, so good. My sense is Michelin will sell a LOT of these tires. Maybe decent mileage and decent performance are not out of reach. |
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I see a lot of people referring to the spedo "correction". There's a very valid reason that the spedo shows less than the actual speed in the US for imported vehicles. There is a gargantuan fine for vehicle manufacturers that import to the US should they find their speedometer is incorrect to the high side. If they're off by 1mph, it's an import fine they don't want to pay. So it's not so much of a speedometer reading incorrectly as it is err on the side of caution. It's true of every single imported vehicle I've owned, including my current Toyota Tacoma. |
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It's much the same in the UK, By law vehicles sold in the UK must NOT under read, so they are generally sold with around a 10% over read to stay well within the law. Therefore if you are caught speeding = you are.
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| | | curtis41 | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 28/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 191 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Feb 2012 - 17:09 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: Leethal) | | |
Leethal wrote:
I got out this morning for a two hundred km ride on what I would call secondary main country roads. I've done 340 kms now and most of the tyre looks run in. I think the chicken strip is going to be a bit wider on these, guess because they are taller. I'm running 35 psi and the ride feels very close to the Metz at 42 psi, still feels quite firm and tracks well, nothing bad to report so far.
I'm about 30 kilos less than Curtis, but we both reckon the ride is firmer than the metz at the same pressures. My ride this morning didn't have too many twisties, mainly long higher speed sweepers, and the bird handled very well. I noticed after the ride, while the tyres were still warm, if you touched the outer section of the tyre with the back of a finger it was quite tacky which is a good sign for grip. I may go up one or two psi and see how it goes, Michelin recommend the bike manufacturers inflation specs. |
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35 psi seems a bit on the low side, as do Triumph recommendations for the Metzelers. My dealer said to use 40 psi for this tire. With my 265 pounds (120 kg), it is more like two-up light for weight. I also have 812 pounds (369 kg) of bike with windscreen, bags, footboards, ABS, etc. My sense is most riders will end up somewhere near 38-40 psi for this tire. The ride is a little firmer, but rain and water pavement are handled great. I did notice that this tire tracks very well around sweeping curves at speed, so that is a plus to me. These roads are a lot more fun to ride on than concrete slabs, so except for very long trips, I usually avoid major highways. I think what you are noticing is the fact that the centerline rubber is harder than the Metzeler or the Avon Storm. THAT is precisely what will permit it to nearly double the tire life. I saw these same Commander 2 tires recently on the Internet for just under $150 and many are priced between around $150-$189, delivered to either you (or your dealer if you don't like driving for service with a tire around your neck :-) ) Thanks for you input, and please encourage others using this tire to chime in and tell us what they observe with this new Michelin motorcycle tire. Also, several Harley owners and those with other bikes chime in, glad to see what you think.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Feb 2012 - 18:55 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: curtis41) | | | Measure your tread depth now and then again after 1000 miles or so,and so forth.That will tell ya if you're running too much or too little pressure in the tire.Remember,the side walls on this tire are stiffer,meaning you should be able to get away with alittle less pressure,but again,due to your size,maybe not.But the only way you're gonna prove or disprove that is to measure tread depth of em. Ca Pishe??? Dave!!!
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,403 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 04 Feb 2012 - 23:29 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: curtis41) | | | Curtis, when I picked it up from the dealer it had 36 psi, I put it up to 38 for my first ride but for me it was sending too much "bump" through . It may just be the tyre bedding in as well. Of course tyre gauges are like compression gauges, very few read exactly the same.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Feb 2012 - 03:51 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: Leethal) | | | A good mechanical air gauge will work just as well as any decent digital air gauge will,except,the digital gauge also uses "tenth of a pound" increments which would be used for race track applications called STAGGERING,if I remember the terminology correctly.I know cause I have both.Dave!!!
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| | | feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Feb 2012 - 14:15 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: davetac1) | | | I still go back to something that has served me well for years. Way back, probably in the mid 70s, I was on a coast to coast flight up in first class sitting with a vice president of R&D from Goodyear. We were talking about problems arising from both under and over inflation of tires and he told me their research showed that looking at the manufacturers maximum allowed inflation, and deducting 10% from that figure gave almost everything on wheels the best compromise between wear, ride, handling, etc. So if the max inflation pressure was 40, run it at 36 PSI and forget the rest of the nonsense. I haven't found a downside to that practice in over 30 years.
OK all, rip me apart if you must. It works. 
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Feb 2012 - 16:20 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: feduke) | | | I agree Mike except that,40 years ago in the 70's, radial tires were not common place at all and still only in their infancy at best,not to mention,unheard of for use in the motorcycle world.But today,things are alittle different with advancements in tire technology since that era.
By the same token,when YOU were a KID,ya know when anything that moved on wheels used large round stones for tires, things were definitely a lot different. Dave!!!
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| | | feduke | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 11/08/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,441 | | Location | : | Daytona Beach, Florida, United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Feb 2012 - 16:24 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: davetac1) | | |
davetac1 wrote:
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Except for the laws of physics. 
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Feb 2012 - 17:06 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: feduke) | | |
feduke wrote:
davetac1 wrote:
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Agreed again.But the composition of the rubber and design has changed,and in this case,so have the laws of physics,somewhat.Dave!!!
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| | Posted : 05 Feb 2012 - 17:30 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: Leethal) | | | Leethal wrote:
Curtis, when I picked it up from the dealer it had 36 psi, I put it up to 38 for my first ride but for me it was sending too much "bump" through . It may just be the tyre bedding in as well. Of course tyre gauges are like compression gauges, very few read exactly the same. |
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This tire has a harder composition in the centerline, and that is what gives it the better mileage. Also, the sidewall seems to be beefed up quite a bit. I took off a rear Metzeler and it was as flat as a pancake in the center, and that sucker lasted just 6,200 miles. One would expect a tire with a stronger construction in the center to give a slightly harsher ride. I suspect much of that will subside, but not all, when you get a few hundred miles on the tire. Will let you know. Mine is riding better that it did at first. Initial tests, mostly done on Harleys of similar weight to the Thunderbird SE did not wear so much in the center, but fairly evenly. I commented earlier that I suspect many riders will end up somewhere in the range of about 38-42 psi, the latter for 2-up heavy. 36 psi by the dealer seems on the low side, I think Triumph lists about 38 for the Metzeler rear. I have 40 psi in mine right now, and at 265 pounds, that is sort of two up light. My sense is that a tire that gives good wet pavement traction, good on curves and costs about $160 delivered and lasts much longer than the Metzeler or Avon is just what the doctor ordered. My suspension is set so squishy that I really don't have a problem with the ride. It helps to have the deep dish touring seat though. Please keep posting your observations on the tire. I will be measuring the tread depth as suggested to me (davetac1) at 1,000 mile intervals and may readjust the pressure, depending on how it goes. So far, so good.
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| | | Leethal | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/01/2011 | | Posts | : | 6,403 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 06 Feb 2012 - 00:40 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: curtis41) | | | Curtis don't read too much into my ride comments. I've had a damaged tailbone since my late twenties, courtesy of an XT500 offing, so I have difficulty getting a comfy ride. I do have the dual longhaul and Ikons and as mentioned my weight is less, so we have to take all that into consideration with our comparisons. I have gone back to 38 but won't get a chance to test till the weekend. I would have thought though that the tyre being stronger in the sidewalls, lower pressures may be ok. Triumph only list the Metz and a Dunlop in the OM, so they would base there pressures around those two tyres, IMO.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 06 Feb 2012 - 01:23 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: Leethal) | | | And don't forget,the OEM tires listed are "Z" rated which could very well make a difference,pressure wise, due to the fact that both the Michelin and Dunlop,200/55R/17 replacement tires are NOT,and also use a 55 aspect ratio verses the 50 aspect ratio used on the OEM tires.So again,it's gonna be a trail and error call,hence only time and mileage will dictate which pressures will work the best. Dave!!!
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| | Posted : 06 Feb 2012 - 02:20 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: davetac1) | | | I know this thread is about the mitchy but I have recently fitted a Dunlop d407 200 55. 17. I've done about 1000 k, s on it so far seems good. It is also a dual compound cost $260 aus we shall see
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 06 Feb 2012 - 12:39 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: Freebird) | | | Are you sure the tire you put on is a D407?? I can't find anything under a D407 anyplace under Dunlop MC tires.Now I'm curious as to just what ya did put on.So could ya recheck your number again, please??? Thank you sir. Dave!!!
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| | Posted : 06 Feb 2012 - 21:29 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: davetac1) | | | Yeh Dave Dunlop d 407 it is a standard Harley issue tyre , just typed it into google up it came . If you can't find them I will try to post a link tonight . Off to work now it gets in the way of my riding and social life.
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 08 Feb 2012 - 00:09 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: Freebird) | | |
Freebird wrote:
Yeh Dave Dunlop d 407 it is a standard Harley issue tyre , just typed it into google up it came . If you can't find them I will try to post a link tonight . Off to work now it gets in the way of my riding and social life. |
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I'm waiting!! lol Dave!!!
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| | | Freebird | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 260 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 08 Feb 2012 - 01:30 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: davetac1) | | | Ok Dave here we go if you go to dunlopmotorcycle.com then press tyre catalogue then Harley series there you will see the 407 there is another one I think it's the 401 which I believe is an older tech tyre may even go longer
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| | | davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 08 Feb 2012 - 01:49 Post title : Re: New Michelin Commander 2 on the Thunderbird 1600 (Re: Freebird) | | | Thank you sir.I just found the site and the tire in question.It looks promising. How come you didn't mention this tire before now as it appears to have been around since 2009??? This tire is yet another option for us.Let us know how the D407 works out for ya.If ya don't mind me askin?? HOW MUCH$$$ All the site says is available from HD ONLY. Thank you again sir.Dave!!!
| | Post edited by davetac1 on 08 Feb 2012 - 02:11 |
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