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| Hornet | | Jupiter |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 05/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 1,294 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 09 Sep 2014 - 13:00 Post title : Booster Plug | | | What do you guys know about this product?
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| daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 09 Sep 2014 - 13:45 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Hornet) | | | Interesting. One thing i can say w/o reservation is that the difference between my bike's worse and best days is quite a jump in performance, and the biggest effect is air temp it seems. So this could just work. But i'll let someone else be the guinea pig. 
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| drhach | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/10/2011 | | Posts | : | 250 | | Location | : | Waukegan, Illinois, United States |
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| | Posted : 09 Sep 2014 - 16:40 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: daz) | | | So it fakes out the Intake Air sensor? The testimonial said it "felt better". I think I'll save my money on this one.
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| Hornet | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 05/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 1,294 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 09 Sep 2014 - 18:29 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: drhach) | | | This has apparently been around for 4/5 years. Lot's of discussion on the BMW boards, mostly positive with the usual amount of naysayers splattered about .
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| johpe | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 14/03/2014 | | Posts | : | 72 | | Location | : | Sweden |
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| | Posted : 09 Sep 2014 - 19:35 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Hornet) | | | Actually I think it seems like a plausible device. Haven't tried it my self but it does seem to make sense to me, most if not all dyno graphs I've seen on different forums from the Thunderbird shows that it is running lean, so if this adds 6% of fuel over the line it should be fine.
I'm curious to get one since it is pretty cheap and they're Danish! :-)
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 09 Sep 2014 - 20:28 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: johpe) | | | One thing about any FI vehicle used in this country is the poor quality of fuel we now have to put up with here called Ethynol.[thank you EPA and our crooked politicians] ] But you can buy additives that will make your injectors function better by keeping clean and for less money.So IMO,I say NAY!! But,if you wanna try it,go out and buy one.Then you can be the judge and report back here your likes and or dislikes. Dave!!!
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| Buford | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 22/07/2012 | | Posts | : | 80 | | Location | : | Horsham, PA, United States |
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| | Posted : 09 Sep 2014 - 22:24 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Hornet) | | | Well - I'm going to be the guinea pig for us, guys. I just ordered it. If this thing can give me a smooth roll off in first gear from a slow coast up to a light and then a turn, I'll be thrilled. My throttle jumps something fierce in that situation. I also want to see if the richer mix under 3,000 RPM will help with the decel popping. I have a custom tune that I hoped would do that, but it doesn't help much, just a little better than the TORs tune. The web site says they'll give you 4 weeks to try it, so I thought,  "Why not?"
I'll give an update when I get it on and run it a bit.....
John
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Sep 2014 - 00:37 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Buford) | | | Great Buford. I for one will be really interested to hear. I however wouldn't care about smoothness or any of that, as mine runs perfectly with no sort of jerkiness or anything. But if it even adds noticeable power I might jump in myself. Lets us know not only how it runs in all those respects, but how easy or not the install is.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| wilburbeest | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/08/2014 | | Posts | : | 59 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Sep 2014 - 05:53 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Buford) | | | Well I guess it's lasted this long, so that's *probably* a good sign. Buford, if it makes any difference for you I might volunteer to be guinea pig #2. In the situation you describe I usually just use second gear and slip the clutch a little if necessary (rare), but it would be nice to have a smoother first gear in parking lots.
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| gwight | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 26/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 761 | | Location | : | Broken Hill, N.S.W., Australia |
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| | Posted : 10 Sep 2014 - 10:10 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: wilburbeest) | | | Will be a good thing if it fixes/partly fixes the decel pop a lot of members have. I'm waiting for the "Zard" slip ons to arrive & if I get the dreaded decel pop, & the Booster Plug helps, I'll definitely be in the market for one, as it's a piece of piss to fit.
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| Hornet | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 05/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 1,294 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 10 Sep 2014 - 10:57 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: gwight) | | | Thanks guys for being the test pilots for this, I was just about ready to buy one but I'll wait for your reviews.
Apparently they ship and deliver quickly so a review should be available soon. 
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| hoe | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 04/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 66 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 10 Sep 2014 - 13:24 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Hornet) | | |
Why would you use this ?
Just buy a cheap usb to obd2 adaptor and use tune ecu or tuneboy to do it properly....
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| Buford | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 22/07/2012 | | Posts | : | 80 | | Location | : | Horsham, PA, United States |
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| | Posted : 14 Sep 2014 - 17:12 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: hoe) | | | I played with tuneECU for months after I got my Hogslayers. I could not eliminate the pop. I got it a little milder, but it came with a bit of loss of power, so that was no good.... Right now, I run the TORs tune with a richened low end in the 1500 to 3000 range where the popping is worst. It helps some, but if this thing helps more, I'll be thrilled.
Maybe my first gear is jerkier than others, I don't know , but I'd like to be able to slow ride without having to use the clutch all the time. I'll give a report. If it doesn't perform, back it goes....
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| Harry007x1 | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 05/08/2012 | | Posts | : | 70 | | Location | : | Howell, New Jersey, United States |
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| | Posted : 14 Sep 2014 - 19:52 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Buford) | | |
Buford wrote:
I played with tuneECU for months after I got my Hogslayers. I could not eliminate the pop. I got it a little milder, but it came with a bit of loss of power, so that was no good.... Right now, I run the TORs tune with a richened low end in the 1500 to 3000 range where the popping is worst. It helps some, but if this thing helps more, I'll be thrilled.
Maybe my first gear is jerkier than others, I don't know , but I'd like to be able to slow ride without having to use the clutch all the time. I'll give a report. If it doesn't perform, back it goes.... |
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Unfortunate popping is the result of less sound deading material in the exhaust, not a result of the tune and is normal. You'll need to detune a well running machine to lessen the popping which is not the best to do. I doubt this device will help with the popping as it is simply a device to shift the location if the IAT to more accurately sence ambient temperature and probably shift it slightly to the cooler side to fool the ECM into running a little richer. I guess we'll need to wait for the reviews to know for sure.....
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 14 Sep 2014 - 20:26 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Harry007x1) | | | There's an old sayin:For every action,there's a reaction.And unfortunately, when ya start playin with performance enhancements on any vehicle,things change and somethin else needs to be modified to compensate for that enhancement.In this case,the poppin thru the exhaust,usually caused from lack of back pressure and created by a now leaner condition,needs to be compensated for.Years ago,we'd up jet the carb[s].Today,you would increase the pulse width of the injector[s]. But when ya do that,economy suffers.Of course,if ya don't care about economy, ya run rich,which should eliminate the poppin.Dave!!!
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| hoe | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 04/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 66 | | Location | : | Australia |
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| | Posted : 16 Sep 2014 - 20:40 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Buford) | | | Buford wrote:
I played with tuneECU for months after I got my Hogslayers. I could not eliminate the pop. I got it a little milder, but it came with a bit of loss of power, so that was no good.... Right now, I run the TORs tune with a richened low end in the 1500 to 3000 range where the popping is worst. It helps some, but if this thing helps more, I'll be thrilled.
Maybe my first gear is jerkier than others, I don't know , but I'd like to be able to slow ride without having to use the clutch all the time. I'll give a report. If it doesn't perform, back it goes.... |
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'Playing' would indeed be the correct term if you are not using a dyno (to put some load on it) and exhaust gas analyser....
Sounds like you have significant fueling problems in the low rpm range at part throttle, your money would be far better spent on a couple of hours dyno time with a competent tuner....
The generic factory tunes are very 'mild' to ensure the bikes run properly under all conditions and to pass all the various countries noise/emissions requirements.
As soon as you modify anything significantly, exhaust/intake/valve timing etc. , the tune must be modified to compensate. The more the bike is modified, the more critical an exact tune for that specific bike is.
A tune that works fine on one bike may not work properly on another bike with the 'same' mods, due to variances in individual bikes. the more mods done, the more likely it wont be exact enough...
When doing major mods, most dyno time is spent on getting part throttle fueling right, full throttle tuning is the easy bit...
All the booster plug does is trick the bikes air temp sensor into thinking its 20 degrees colder than it really is so the ecu adds approximately 6% more fuel across the entire rev range, you can do that for free with tune ecu...
it's an expensive resistor, and not a very good way to 'tune' a bike. but it may stop your popping problem, who knows....
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| Hornet | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 05/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 1,294 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 22 Sep 2014 - 14:53 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Buford) | | |
Buford wrote:
Well - I'm going to be the guinea pig for us, guys. I just ordered it. If this thing can give me a smooth roll off in first gear from a slow coast up to a light and then a turn, I'll be thrilled. My throttle jumps something fierce in that situation. I also want to see if the richer mix under 3,000 RPM will help with the decel popping. I have a custom tune that I hoped would do that, but it doesn't help much, just a little better than the TORs tune. The web site says they'll give you 4 weeks to try it, so I thought, "Why not?"
I'll give an update when I get it on and run it a bit.....
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Buford, Wondering if you received the plug? Any updates you can share with us?
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| cjbwfd | | Set | | | Reg. Date | : | 31/08/2014 | | Posts | : | 17 | | Location | : | Westfield , Mass, United States |
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| | Posted : 22 Sep 2014 - 17:22 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Hornet) | | | I used a booster plug on my Bmw r1200cl and on that bike it did make a difference, those bikes are known for being much to lean. The plug helped with sputtering and popping issues, I feel it made the bike run better. Should have kept it to try on the tbird
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 22 Sep 2014 - 20:27 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: cjbwfd) | | | Chances are then that those of us using custom tunes aren't going to see any benefits from them.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| Buford | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 22/07/2012 | | Posts | : | 80 | | Location | : | Horsham, PA, United States |
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| | Posted : 24 Sep 2014 - 20:01 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Hornet) | | | I got the booster plug last week - just in time to throw on for the NE PA flocking. I've noticed a couple things, but I want to try it with and without for a few more rides before final judgement. Things I noticed:
1) There is a sense of smoother running than before, especially when twisting off and on quickly. It is a tad better in 1st gear methinks (not just because I dropped $149 on it), just a bit less lurchy, but certainly not worth the expense.
2) It actually does reduce the decel popping greatly!!!! Not 100% by any means, but I would guess around 70%. I have the hogslayers and tune on it and the popping was very annoying (to me at least).
So, like I said, I want to go out for a ride and do 30 minutes with it on, 30 minutes off, etc. to see (and hear) for sure that it helps. It is a simple installation - 10 minutes, two tie-wraps, I have everything undrneath the left side cover. Tied it to the inside of the frame tube on the trailing edge of the cover. I can make the on/off change in 30 seconds while out testing.
As of now, I'll probably keep it if its an obvious difference with the popping (or puffing as they translate it on their site). I'll post again next week after I do the on/off testing to verify the reduced popping.
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| gwight | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 761 | | Location | : | Broken Hill, N.S.W., Australia |
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| | Posted : 24 Sep 2014 - 21:14 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Buford) | | | Thanks for that info, John, I was hoping it would help with the decel pop, as Jerry said, it also helps to have some minor acceleration on a down hill run, which I noticed when I had the Hoggies on.
Cheers, Guido. 
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| Hornet | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 05/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 1,294 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Oct 2014 - 12:01 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: gwight) | | | Anymore updates to share on this ?
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| gwight | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 761 | | Location | : | Broken Hill, N.S.W., Australia |
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| | Posted : 05 Oct 2014 - 22:29 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Hornet) | | | Just waiting for the Zards to arrive & will let you know. Maybe a couple of weeks off. Didn't notice any real difference with the drilled out baffles on the OEM pipes with the Meercat crossover as there was no real "pop" & that's going down a steep hill.
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| easyrider | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 17/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,066 | | Location | : | NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 06 Oct 2014 - 22:09 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: gwight) | | | You might be better off pouring a can of red bull in your tank
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| fab | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,515 | | Location | : | wyong, nsw, Australia |
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| | Posted : 06 Oct 2014 - 23:00 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: easyrider) | | |
easyrider wrote:
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Remember, soft cocks hang around all life long, hard ones come and go
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| gwight | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 761 | | Location | : | Broken Hill, N.S.W., Australia |
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| | Posted : 06 Oct 2014 - 23:33 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: fab) | | | You could be on the money !! 
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| Rev | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 02/02/2011 | | Posts | : | 266 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 24 Oct 2014 - 15:32 Post title : Re: Booster Plug (Re: Buford) | | |
Buford wrote:
I got the booster plug last week - just in time to throw on for the NE PA flocking. I've noticed a couple things, but I want to try it with and without for a few more rides before final judgement. Things I noticed:
1) There is a sense of smoother running than before, especially when twisting off and on quickly. It is a tad better in 1st gear methinks (not just because I dropped $149 on it), just a bit less lurchy, but certainly not worth the expense.
2) It actually does reduce the decel popping greatly!!!! Not 100% by any means, but I would guess around 70%. I have the hogslayers and tune on it and the popping was very annoying (to me at least).
So, like I said, I want to go out for a ride and do 30 minutes with it on, 30 minutes off, etc. to see (and hear) for sure that it helps. It is a simple installation - 10 minutes, two tie-wraps, I have everything undrneath the left side cover. Tied it to the inside of the frame tube on the trailing edge of the cover. I can make the on/off change in 30 seconds while out testing.
As of now, I'll probably keep it if its an obvious difference with the popping (or puffing as they translate it on their site). I'll post again next week after I do the on/off testing to verify the reduced popping.
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